05 May 2005 @ 01:48 pm
Thinking Too Much About Too Little  
One of the reasons I hate the LRC:

I have just accidentally managed to turn off someone else's PC. The problem? A good three-quarters of the PCs in this place are 'stack' style. Sat on a desk next to one another, it's not always easy to tell which stack belongs to which PC. It doesn't help that they are all black, or that the cunning design of these things makes it hard (read: near impossible) to tell if the bloody things are actually on or not if the computer screen is blank. Is this thing working? Is it on standby? is it shut down? You just can't tell. Long story short: I try to turn on what I think is a free PC and succeed in shutting down the PC of the girl sat next to it.

Need I even mention that this is one of the few occasions where a PC has shut down immediately on me, without my having to press and hold the button for at least ten seconds? I apologized, naturally, but the woman appeared to have an attitude on her the size of new Mexico and wasn't entirely inclined to accept it. Look, madam: I'm sorry I shut down your PC, but I made a mistake and sometimes mistakes do happen.

Now back to my scheduled update.

For, with the general election in full swing and voting well underway, my thoughts have turned lightly to a serious topic of extreme seriousness. This is an issue dear to my heart, and one which never fails to energize me.

Weiss Kreuz Counterpart Slash.

Counterpart slash, for the three of you who are not in the know, involves writing yaoi/slash fanfiction in which the main pairing is one of the Weiss members and their Schwartz counterpart - or, to be more accurate, vice versa (anyone familiar with yaoi/slash conventions, which I guess will be most of the people who read this thing, will know what this implies). yes, they have counterparts. Or - again with the accuracy - more precisely they have People They Usually Fight. Ken, to use the predictable and most downright bloody disturbing example, will usually face off against Farfarello.

Predictable Consequence #1: Really Bloody Disturbing (to say nothing of literally bloody) Farfarello x Ken yaoi fanfics.
Predictable Consequence #2: I accidentally read said fanfic, go completely insane and tear out my own eyes.

Now don't get me wrong - this isn't to say that I think absolutely all the stories revolving around this pairing are immediately Wrong with a capital wrong. I've read some pretty good fics that take this as a starting point, actually (one by [livejournal.com profile] kay_cricketed immediately springs to mind, which I think I forgot to review. Blast! I must remember to do so). As a study in pathology it could actually prove kind of interesting. But that's about as far as i'm prepared to take it: a study in pathology. Abnormal pathology at that. What I am not about to buy is the idea that Farfarello and Ken make a good couple when they don't, or that any resulting sex scene (sex scene?) would be anything other than a wholly disturbing and mind-fucking experience.

Which reminds me how much I goddamn hate the fanfic convention of the 'almost rape' (but not quite, mind!) scene. If you've read any fanfic at all you'll have come across at least one of these things. I've been told that this is a popular way to go about writing Farfarello x Ken yaoi. Someone hide the children's eyes. Hell, someone hide my eyes.

So I'm not saying that all of these fanfics are immediately godawful, but - and this for me is a bloody big but - why does this imply that said pair would make a good couple who are not even slightly dysfunctional? Who, for example, decided that they thought Crawford x Aya could possibly be at all Cute and Romantic when out together? I've seen a good number of fluffy fics centered on these two, many of which are no doubt intended to generate huge amounts of Warm and Fuzzy Feelings in their readers, and yet they just leave me wondering what led these guys to stop trying to kill one another for long enough to get it on.

(And who, when one looks at Youji and Schuldich - Youji and Schuldich? - the only thing I find myself thinking is, who's the seme?)

I've been in the WK fandom a while. Years, actually, though it's only recently I actually started getting involved in any real way (I blame Ken, but of course I do). I guess fandoms are like everything else - trends develop for, in this particular case, certain pairings. The scariest thing about Counterpart Slash for me is not that the resultant pairings are almost completely nonsensical given that both partners canonically keep trying to kill one another, but that these pairings have become so scarily prevalent. Even, God help us all, popular. I never used to see Schuldich x Youji or whatever way round this pairing goes at all. Now I seem to see it all the damn time, and in WAFF-y romance fics as well as explorations of how everyone in Weiss Kreuz is fucked up on some level. Now those fics I can enjoy and almost understand, but not the cute, romantic ones. Where is the cute or romantic in Youji x Schuldich? Or any Counterpart Slash pairing for that matter?

Where did this trend originate, who do we have to blame for it, and why can't we make it stop? These guys want to kill one another! They do not want to have crazy lemonsex!

Okay, so that was pretty daft but what the hell. I'm tired, having a very boring day - I swear I covered all this public health stuff in first year, are threy actually going to tell us anything new today or should i just give up and try and write my fanfic in this next lecture? - and my elbow has started hurting, as if I've bruised it. besides, what on earth is the point of this Livejournal thingy if I can't use it to Indulge my Fangirlishness on a regular basis?

(Hey, [livejournal.com profile] angstchan... bet you really think I need help now.)
 
 
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[identity profile] angstchan.livejournal.com on May 5th, 2005 07:25 pm (UTC)
You scare me even more now. T_T hehe.

And Schu would be the seme, following all seme/uke conventions. Simply: he's too fucked to be Youji's uke.
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[identity profile] sevendials.livejournal.com on May 6th, 2005 12:03 pm (UTC)
I thought I might do.

What can I say, it's possible to get very bored in South Bank University during the lunch hour. Or in lectures, for that matter. And it's possible to decide that you really have had enough of thinking about the General Election and would rather think about - ooh, anything else at all? Ever? I know - I have too much time on my hands. I should be thinking about my Public Health essay. But - and here's the rub - right now I really can't be bothered.

I thought that may have been the case with Schu, but all the same... that pairing is just so wrong I don't like to speculate about it on any level at all. ^^
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[identity profile] kay-cricketed.livejournal.com on May 5th, 2005 09:44 pm (UTC)
*laughs* I'm STILL wondering where the hell Farf x Ken came from... I don't even read it often and it was the first thing I started typing. Ch', when in doubt, seek blood and symbolic carp...

Crawford x Aya makes me giggle. There would be no talking. They'd be standing in the kitchen making dinner on a sunny afternoon:

Crawford: ...
Aya: ...
Both: *whip out gun and shoot each other*
(silence)
Bird: *chirps*

This being said, while I never understand many pairings, I'll read anything. I am shameless. XD But I do agree with you on most of this, hah.

I FINISHED MY LAST EXAM!!!11!1 Am so going to read your Weiss ficcage now! *runs off giddily*
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[identity profile] sevendials.livejournal.com on May 6th, 2005 12:19 pm (UTC)
It's funny the way fics do that on you sometimes, isn't it? They just show up and seem to demand a certain pairing or point of view and there's nothing at all you can do about it. I mean, my first ever Weiss fic insisted on - get this - a first person perspective coming from, of all people, Neu. I don't write in the first person often and yet I've had three Weiss fics demand that off me. 'Honey Trap' demanded first-person present tense, and normally I would never write like that...

Yup, there's a convincing Crawford x Aya scenario. Pointed silence and pointless death. A lot more convincing that rampant WAFFy-ness and cuteness. Either that or Aya would stand there glaring while Crawford went on and on and on and on in a kind of symbolic vein about how much better he was than everyone else. Remember ep. 24? Geez, Crawford, just shut up and fight him already!

I'm picky about pairings too, but I'll read most of them. Content bothers me rather more than who winds up with who, though I can't get this Counterpart Slash thing at all and if it looks like any canon chara is going to end up with an OC (spawn of satan!) I'll stop reading pretty damn sharpish. Or carry on reading only for the sake of plotting my Devious MST Revenge.

Yay, you finished your exams! Congratulations, and I'm sure you did just great. Hope you enjoy the ficcage... ;)
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[identity profile] kay-cricketed.livejournal.com on May 7th, 2005 12:18 am (UTC)
Aahh, I know what you mean about first person present tense. It drives me insane. I used to write first person constantly-- all my older stories are done that way-- but I completely lost any ability to do it during high school. I much prefer third person in various tenses. Eh, oh well.

Honey Trap. *pets it giddily* I'm making a review of this as I type this.

Hah! I have to admit, the fluffy Crawford/Aya fiction makes me happy. Because... well, I'm irrationally attracted to fluffy things, even if I'm an angst-lover at heart. And it doesn't get much more absurdly fluffy than Crawford/Aya being cute and cooking. (Why are they always cooking?) This being said, giggling your entire way through a fic just because the fluff is overpowering your brain says nothing about the pairing. XD

Anyway. OCs... make me flinch. Which is why I was so delighted that you write them so well in your works-- I could never pull it off, it says so much about your ability as a writer to do so. I don't even mind Moth, whereas most of the time I'd detest her kind of character. And I *love* your bad guys. Oh yes.

And now I'm off to fangirl more over you. *cheerfully* Thanks so much for listening to my babble! Have a wonderful day! *hug*
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[identity profile] sevendials.livejournal.com on May 7th, 2005 08:42 pm (UTC)
I much prefer third person, too - it's more versatile. Sometimes, though, I just know that something has to be written in first-person and that it wouldn't work any other way. I never used to write in the first person at all. It's only recently I started to do it, and there are only a handful of charas I would dare try something like that with.

(Incidentally - I wrote the first paragraph of the first fic in my my one-shot trilogy in the first person, then thought 'nah' and changed to the third. I'm glad I did because I really don't think the other two fics in that thing would have worked anywhere near as well as they did in the first person. Certainly I couldn't have written a sex scene in the first person. That would have been too hard - it was hard enough as it was. ^^)

Glad you like 'Honey Trap'. I like comedy. Started out with comedy fics, but I think every other ficcer out there does that. The others all write Mary Sues, so I'm glad I started with the dumb humor! :)

Mwahaha. Moth. No, I don't like characters like her much. She's just such a goddamn pain. She's so good, and nice, and infuriatingly passive. She's like a Mary Sue who ended up in a much crueler, non Sue-centric universe, and is encountering all the problems a Mary Sue would face if the regular characters decided that actually, no they weren't madly in love with her and just dying to protect her. I like the villains so much more.

And there's no need to thank me for listening to your babble! Not when I take it as an excuse to babble on back at you, anyway. ^^
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[identity profile] vermachtnis.livejournal.com on May 5th, 2005 10:10 pm (UTC)
Although I do believe you know my thoughts on the dreaded Countpart Slash [henceforth referred to as CPS] forwards and backwards, just thought I'd bounce over to share some more.

I'm inclined to think that if I had to pick a seme for the Schuldig x Youji thing [because I can't really even call it a pairing] it would be Schuldig. Because he's Schwarz, and, when all else fails in the world of CPS, it's Schwarz x Weiss. Although I have read one where Youji rapes Schuldig.

Yes. You read me right. Another Rapist!Youji fic. This time he rapes Schuldig. I mean... good lord.

I still read it, though. I think I've read every pair imaginable.

*thinks for a while*

Cancel that, I've never read a Farfarello x Omi. I think I'll try to hunt one down. Car crash horror and all that. Curiosity killed the Weiss fan.
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[identity profile] sevendials.livejournal.com on May 6th, 2005 12:11 pm (UTC)
I( know what you mean about the CPS. You'd think over the course of our back-and-forth ranting about the sheer evils of it that I'd have had more than enough opportunities to get it out of my system, but apparently NO. I just had to go rant about it some more. Go, as they say, figure.

Yeah, pairing is too rarefied a word for that... bizarre state of affairs. I'd go for Schu too, and for exactly the same reasons, but that brings in all sorts of horrid problems. Youji a uke? Okay. Sure. Right. Fine. And as for that fanfic, all I can say is...

*falls off chair*

My GOD, where do you FIND all these crazy and whacked-out fics? I mean as if the extreme deathfic wasn't bad enough, a Rapist!Youji fic where he manages to rape Schuldich? My god, and there I thought I'd heard it all. Well, now I really have done. Youji. Rapes. Schuldich. How is that even possible? Or maybe it's a sign that The End Times are truly upon us.

Farfarello x Omi is... not so good. I've read a couple so I say this advisedly. Thank Farfarello x Ken, only even more disturbing and wrong, with the added bonus of EVEN MORE useless and scary religious imagery and Omi getting compared to an angel (fallen or otherwise) every other paragraph. At least there's one plus to sticking Farfarello with Ken - at least Ken doesn't get constant angel similes. Just don't GO there.

I've never read an Aya x Nagi. Never wanted to, either...
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[identity profile] vermachtnis.livejournal.com on May 7th, 2005 06:51 am (UTC)
If crazy-ass nonsensical Weiss pairings are a sign of the coming apocalypse, I'd say we're due for some world destruction any day now.

Really, I think I just have a knack for finding the weirdest stuff. Let's just chalk it up to a lot of time spent looking for and reading Weiss fics, and a tendency to read anything that remotely catches my interest. Whether that interest be of the 'ooh, this looks good!' sort or the 'whoah, Crawford x Omi?! Now this I've got to see!' sort.

I think Schuldig was drunk, but I don't rightly remember. I think Youji was too.

Omi gets those angel comparisons a lot, doesn't he? I think I usually see them in Youji x Omi and Nagi x Omi [that one really gets my hackles up but I'm not going to get into it again] but I can imagine that a Farfarello x Omi would be rolling in them. Hurting God and all that. I haven't hunted one down yet to read, but I might sometime soon. Depends on my crapfic tolerance level in the coming days.

I'm pretty sure I once read an Aya x Nagi AU. I'm also pretty sure it sucked and I blocked most of it out. Which, for some reason, reminds me of this horrible Aya x Omi I once read in which Omi did drugs, cut himself, and eventually killed himself with Youji's wire.

*wanders off to ponder the strangeness of it all.*
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[identity profile] sevendials.livejournal.com on May 7th, 2005 08:31 pm (UTC)
You certainly do seem to have a disturbing talent, or maybe even anti-talent, for locating fics with the craziest of crazy and cracked-out pairings in. Not like me. No. I just draw Mary Sues like they were horrible sugar-covered iron filings and I was some celestial magnet. I really should stop reading Sue Fiction, it causes me much pain and suffering, for I loathe it so much and yet cannot seem to pull myself away from it... the terror of it, it's unbelievable.

Oh well, crazy though those pairings are, they could be worse. They don't involve Persia or Takatori or any of his twisted children. Yikes, and that's a bad thought right there. But eesh, Crawford x Omi? That's weird. But I dunno if I think it's worse than Crawford x Ken. Maybe it is, I dunno. It seems like Omi has more in common with Omi than he does with Ken, so that's kinda hard to call.

I think Youji would have had to be drunk to rape Schuldich. Though what is it with Rapist!Youji fics suggesting that all Youji needs is a few beers and he turns into... well, a rapist?

Personally, angel comparisons don't do a lot for me. Partly because they've been ruined by a load of bad Mary Sue fics and their ficcers' fondness for comparing their Sues to angels (speaking of: Angel's Love is now at Chapter 7. Need I mention it is getting suckier and suckier? It seems that the secondary Sue - yup, Ken's girlfriend *dies* - is going to be revealed to have Super Sue powers any time now. Why is this thing getting good reviews?). Perhaps it's just because they're so overdone. And believe me - they really are rolling in them. It's not good.

I can't believe an Aya x Nagi would be anything but crap. And that Aya x Omi sounds... well, it sounds worryingly like that Rapist!Youji fic we've been subjected to, actually. What is it with ficcers and characterizing sunny, sane little Omi as a suicidal, proto-Gothic wreck? I can't see Omi as a junkie, you know. He takes to that about as readily as Ken would, if you ask me - neither of them have remotely the right personality for it, IMO.

*curls up in a hole to escape from the wrongness courtesy of fluffy Youji x Ken thoughts*
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