10 May 2005 @ 07:52 pm
Mary Sue Must Die  
Ack, fanfic is eating my brain. College? What's college? Fuck preparing my presentation on STDs, I've got some serious fanfic to write.

I realized on the way home that I have something stupid like 12 pages of 'Seuche' in my writer's notebook waiting to be transcribed from page to screen. I need to type them up. I have a horrible feeling Chapter 19 is going to get Too Long and that the action scenes and general angsty evilnesses that I have planned are going to have to wait until Chapter 20. Damn scene building. Damn creating a mood of (hopefully) brooding tension. Damn trying to be descriptive.

I guess that's my evening booked, then. Unless I fall asleep and don't wake up, or decide to write an MST, or something else. Or maybe I'll just try and finish the fic where Youji 'accidentally' gets stuck in the stock cupboard with Ken. I guess it'll depend on how angsty and/or creative I'm feeling, and how much patience I have for typing up pages and pages of notebook covered in the scrawl that is my terrible handwriting, made even more terrible by the jolting buses I've been trying to write on. Or in. Whatever. But who knows what mysterious mysteries life my bring? Such mysteries are what make life worth living.

Oh. Hang about. It seems that what life has brought is another appalling update to another appalling Mary Sue fic. They don't make life worth living. No. They make suicide seem appealing. Why is it that every time I check out ff.net, some idiot has written another stupid Sue fic, or added a chapter to their own ever-multiplying monstrosity? Dear God, these things are multiplying like bunnies. Maybe it's some kind of asexual reproduction deal.

But maybe we can learn from Sue ficcers. Take the art of weaving a devious and twisted plot, for example. Here's an example of the kind of compelling and dynamic storytelling such fics specialize in...

A Mary Sue with an angsty past joins Weiss as apparently the boys can't cut it alone any more and desperately need her help to stop them from dying. They aren't told who she actually is because... um, because it's easier to work with someone you can't trust? Because teams worik better if you don't know who all your teammates are? Because that makes her Cool? I dunno. Nor can I work out how come four highly trained assassins with suspicious minds can prove incapable of noticing the similarities between their mysterious, beautiful teammate and the mysterious beauty who's hanging round the place. Anyway, she gets hospitalized after a mission goes wrong (how often does this happen in the series? Once?). Everyone worries about her. Now, shockingly, it's revealed she has vast and untapped psychic powers so Schwartz are after her and--

--hey, hang about, haven't I read this fic before?

Haven't I read this fic twenty or thirty times before?

You know something? I have. Maybe not this exact fic, mind, but all these damn stories - and characters, too - are so freakin' similar that I might as well be reading the same fic over and over as actually going to look at a new one. I don't actually need to read these stories to know where their authors are going with them. I could write one myself, with its own wonderfully generic plot about an unspecified and yet vastly overplayed threat that only my Sue knows how to handle, and subscribing to all the genre conventions, with absolutely no problem. God damn, why are all these fics so formulaic? And why do their authors think they're being so cool and innovative?

I'm beginning to think the Weiss fandom needs a Mary Sue Litmus Test.

But I can't find one.

I can't find one anywhere. I can't think why the hell not given the growing problems my poor fandom has with Sue infestation, for which I blame the US DVD release. In which case... well, I bet you can guess where this one's going. I've had quite enough of Mary Sues infiltrating my fandom, thank you. I think the Weiss Fandom needs a Mary Sue Litmus test to such an extent that I have written my own. Yes, I love my MSTs, but MSTs only take on one fic at a time. This way I can target many, many more...

Hence this: the Mary Sue Litmus Test: Weiss Kreuz Version.

Okay, that particular dollop of imaginative nomenclature is, for the moment, just a working title. I'm putting serious thought to changing it. The test is very much in its draft format at the moment. It still needs a fair bit of work. I'm just posting it here (and so far nowhere else) just to inform the world of my intentions. I've worked through this damned test with a hell of a lot of Sues, as well as some of my own characters and just to check it really is working right, some of the canon characters too. It seems, to my mind, pretty damn good at Sue-detection.

Yes, it still needs work. It needs refinement, and tweaking, and generally giving a seeing to. I need to write an introduction to the test, and advice on where to go from here for those characters who test Sue-Positive. But the idea's there, and I guess that's all that matters for a kick-off.

Going to write now. Must do... Stuff.
 
 
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[identity profile] skyrat13.livejournal.com on May 12th, 2005 04:45 am (UTC)
hiya. I just stumbled here by accident because I tried reviewing one of your fics but my computer is being retarded tonight and wouldn't let the pop-up work. I know from experience that when I put off reviewing something till later, I never remember, I have to review right after reading or there's no point. So I just thought I'd drop you a line here so you know I liked your story. Anyways, I just read the three-part yohji/ken story that followed the kapital timeline. I really enjoyed it. It's really nice getting a story where the characters are allowed an realistic slow progression to come to terms with their feelings, that sort of thing is way too rushed in most fics, I like how you split it up into three parts and real time passed in between them. Secondly, I personally tend to get rather hung up on exploring their pasts with Kase and Asuka, and it's rare to get a story that doesn't paint Kase as strictly a one-dimensional evil bastard. So I really liked how you handled that. I tend to see an awful lot of Yuriko/Asuka/Kase-bashing out there and it's really nice to get a story that acknowledges their importance. Well anyway, I'm too tired to be entirely coherent right now, I meant to read just one fic tonight and ended up reading three, heh. Ciao.
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[identity profile] sevendials.livejournal.com on May 13th, 2005 12:40 pm (UTC)
Thanks ever so much for the comment! I'm really flattered that you came out of your way to review my fics like that, and doubly so to know you liked them. I know what you mean about the reviews. I'm terrible at giving them myself and really wish I was better. Some day, I swear, I will get better at this read and review game.

I know what you mean about the character bashing. That's just annoying. Personally, I actually liked Yuriko and Asuka and find Kase a very interesting character (for all I think he's a total ass, but Ken had to like him for a reason and damn - he'd known the guy years. There had to be something else there - why else did Ken like him?). And I don't agree with bashing characters in fanfic just because of who the character happens to fall for, or how annoying I personally find them. Good to hear I didn't fall into that trap.

And don't worry about your coherence - you made perfect sense to me. Thanks again for the feedback! :)
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[identity profile] vermachtnis.livejournal.com on May 15th, 2005 03:46 am (UTC)
Yay, the litmus test! I figured you would make one of these, I was just waiting for it to pop up. It looks quite accurate to me. I would've commented on this sooner, but I'm a bit behind on my internet life [damn you, real life! go away!]. Anyway. I'll probably try running a few of the originals in my new story through this, though from my mental tally I think they all test Sue-Negative.

And I'm curious as to what those who test Sue-Positive should do. Burn in hell, perhaps?

Wow, 12 pages! I tend to collect a lot before typing, too- although it takes me a long time to collect something worth typing. I write slower than molasses, I swear.
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[identity profile] sevendials.livejournal.com on May 15th, 2005 11:11 pm (UTC)
Yes, it was kind of inevitable that I'd do that, wasn't it? I really do think I have problems. All I have to do is hear about something cool - winamp skins, MSTs, fanfiction, now this Litmus Test - and I start thinking 'how cool, I want to do one!'. It's quite scary really. Especially seeing that to make this thing I had to read Sue Fiction. Lots of Sue Fiction. Until I screamed. I dunno what to do with charas who test Sue-Positive either, but something painful and irrevocable would be a favorite.

(Though I found a great fic to MST in the process, so some good came of it. It's a lousy fic in all other regards, but for MSTing purposes it is fantastic.)

Let me know what you make of the scoring system when you run your guys through it - I need to know if it works. I ran Shinobu through it and he scored 8. Most characters everywhere will accumulate a few points on the test (including the canon cast, needless to add - I did it with Seuche Ken for fear of Canon Sue but I don't remember how highly he scored. About 12? It would have been less if it wasn't for the rape scene). It's just when you get lots you need to worry.

Anyway, if you think it's too easy to test Sue-positive, then do tell me and I shall revise. :)
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